tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post114758588715078001..comments2023-06-05T02:27:22.266-05:00Comments on Rocketman's Revenge: The Inexorable March Towards Freedom, Part 1Rocketman1200http://www.blogger.com/profile/13468801094248804078noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post-1148662189017572132006-05-26T11:49:00.000-05:002006-05-26T11:49:00.000-05:00there's no reason why that fastfood worker has to ...there's no reason why that fastfood worker has to stay in that job. And by the way, the starting wage at Tim Hortons is like 9 bucks now. If you work at a gas station and you're a good employee, you can make more than that. And trust me, the work that you're doing at a burger joint or a gas station is pretty low value. I'd say that the exchange is fair.Rocketman1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/13468801094248804078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post-1148651964839331952006-05-26T08:59:00.000-05:002006-05-26T08:59:00.000-05:00But it can still go both ways. You're looking at ...But it can still go both ways. You're looking at the "bottom rung" of the ladder, but what about the average employee? Software developers have lots of opportunity in places like Waterloo, so employers have to pay above their worth in order to keep them.<BR/>Salesmen can make rockstar salaries if they choose the right industry and know what they're doing.<BR/>Side note: I believed in communism too until earlier this year, when a group of delegates from a certain communist country approached my company interested in our product. Later in the meeting, a few of the government officials asked us if we would allow *their own companies* to be resellers; these officials had private businesses running on the side, selling things to the government. The beautiful women hanging off of their arms were somewhat of a distraction, but I still came to realize that these guys are just as crooked as any capitalist; only theirs is a much larger resource pool to exploit.RPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00591260674599342839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post-1148622303063121992006-05-26T00:45:00.000-05:002006-05-26T00:45:00.000-05:00You really think employers paying an employee is b...You really think employers paying an employee is being exploited? In Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada a single mother working in a fastfood chain for example is by no means exploiting either the management of the establisment or the franchise which makes millions.<BR/><BR/>The same can be said when comparing any clothing manufacturer which outsources labour to a "developing country." The labourers sewing your and my gitch are not exploiting the management at the factory nor are they exploiting the franchise.<BR/><BR/>While I agree that those who start business should be rewarded for their efforts, the monetary gain for these ventures should not come at the expense of the employees. Specifically large multinationals that make millions while paying some employees pennies a day is not fair.manaloguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857180750157295514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post-1148535190391320132006-05-25T00:33:00.000-05:002006-05-25T00:33:00.000-05:00ah. but exploitation is a two-way street. Worker...ah. but exploitation is a two-way street. Workers exploit their employers for the best possible wage they can obtain, and employers exploit their workers for the lowest wage they can pay.<BR/><BR/>As to being 'objectively' rewarded, who is responsible for setting the levels of compensation if it is neither employer nor employee?Rocketman1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/13468801094248804078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24946117.post-1148521013167008462006-05-24T20:36:00.000-05:002006-05-24T20:36:00.000-05:00So you believe there is nothing wrong with exploit...So you believe there is nothing wrong with exploitation?<BR/><BR/>You confuse exploitation with reward. Getting objectively paid for a days work in my opinion is reward. As soon as the reward is unfair, which it often is in free markets, employers and business owners exploit workers. These indivuduals' efforts contribute to the success of others, therefore they deserve just payment. Workers are not sacrifices and should be paid accordingly.manaloguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857180750157295514noreply@blogger.com